Tuesday, March 21, 2006

Iraqi Documents

The rightwing blogosphere continues to selectively quote and misrepresent these documents as "smoking gun" proof that they were right all along.

Ray Robison headlines:

Saddam's WMD and terrorist connections all proven in one document!!!

The al-Quds liberation army division supplied us with information....as follows.

1. The Iraqi government will distribute the same leaflets that the American forces are distributing but it will contain anthrax.

2. Iraq imports uniforms resembling American forces uniforms for the purpose of killing Iraqi citizens....

3. Dig trenches around Baghdad...oil...burning...cause mayhem

But look at the document itself: IZSP-2003-00003336

The document itself actually begins:

The Al-Quds liberation army division supplied us with information (open source) (impaired broadcast) as follows:
This is not completely clear and hopefully Professor Juan Cole or someone else who knows Arabic will check the translation. Looking at the document in its entirety it does appear that the source is repeating rumors and news reports.

10 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

All this "proof". Thanks for your contribution and please check out these "translations" being spred around the net. These are suspicious translations of unverified documents, but some are taking them as gospel.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1600367/posts?page=51,7

In the Prewar Iraq documents posted on the Pentagon/FMSO website I found document ISGP-2003-00028868 where on pages 20, 21, and 22 of the pdf document there is a top secret memo on how to train and use the Arab Feedaeyeens as Suicide Bombers or as the memo call them “Estishehadeyeen” which means in Arabic “Suicide Martyrs”. The Arab Feedaeyeens are definitely foreigners non Iraqi Arabs who came to Iraq from all over the Middle East and North Africa and they were greatly welcomed by Saddam regime and trained by his military and intelligence apparatus to become Suicide Bombers. The Iraqi Feedaeyeens are known as “Feedaeyeen Saddam” so not to confuse between the two groups. This document proves that not only there were non Iraqi Arab terrorists in Iraq before the war but they were also trained by Saddam regime on how to become suicide bombers by using their own bodies, or suicide bombers using cars and motorcycles full of explosive, or even become suicide bombers using Camels carrying explosives.

10:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course there were no links between Saddam and Qaeda, the democrats and media all told us, after they told us that there WERE links of course. but it's ok, those two thugs had no reason for colluding together and were probably just talking about doing joint charity work, they were both decent guys, america is the evil one persecuting bin laden and saddam

10:52 AM  
Blogger gary said...

Thanks to the first anonymous for your thoughtful comments. Second anonymous: get off the sauce, man.

11:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I considered that this may be rumor monitoring when I first reviewed it, but rumors wouldn't need a top secret IIS document, unless it was added on at the end of an informational memo as an "also" as the rumor about russia is. And notice that the rumor is clearly called a rumor as opposed to an action line like the first three. - RR /p.s. I was an analyst with the ISG so I might just be experienced at reading these things, not that experience counts to a liberal.

11:34 AM  
Blogger gary said...

Note to Anonymous 3:

I value informed comment from any source. The document is not very clear. What is (open source) and (impaired broadcasts)?

The document is labeled secret (although not top secret as far as I can tell)but I imagine their intelligence services, like ours, will classify just about anything.

I hope you will check out my blog from time to time.

12:32 PM  
Anonymous de7thangel said...

Ray Robison appears to be trying to pull four and twenty blackbirds out of just one pie. Saddam was not stupid enough to give anthrax to anyone. It's traceable. His seed stocks were supplied by the USA. Problem was they gave him British (Porton Down) samples to play with. The US attacks were a Fort Detrick variety. Not the same stuff.

RR - "But it raises a very interesting question when you think about the anthrax attack of 9/11. Did somebody in Iraqi labs steal anthrax and give or sell it to Jihadists? Just a thought..."

What attack of 9/11? They happened (albeit shortly) afterwards.

Yeah, just a thought, but not thought through anywhere near enough (in my opinion).

5:52 AM  
Anonymous I'mRight said...

Oh but can you refute the fact that Naji Sabri was hired by the CIA and has provided information about the 500 tons of WMD that Iraq possesed? Or is that just more "right-wing" lies?

11:44 AM  
Blogger gary said...

I'm right: I saw that story. Here's what Sabri had to say about it:

“The information carried by NBC are lies, totally fabricated and unfounded.

“After the lies about the weapons of mass destruction which do not exist and the alleged links with al-Qa’eda, it seems that this new lie is aimed at giving a new fake pretext to justify the crime of the century: the invasion of Iraq.”

It is possible that he is lying now, of course.

1:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

de7thangel said...
"Ray Robison appears to be trying to pull four and twenty blackbirds out of just one pie. Saddam was not stupid enough to give anthrax to anyone. It's traceable. His seed stocks were supplied by the USA. Problem was they gave him British (Porton Down) samples to play with. The US attacks were a Fort Detrick variety. Not the same stuff."

This is way wrong. The US attacks were done with Aimes anthrax which is from U.S. stocks which have been given to medical research facilities in Porton Downs (and other countries). Britian has a much closer relationship and longer history in working with middle east scientists and that is most likely how Saddam obtained aimes anthrax (if he had it). And if he had aimes anthrax, it would make perfect sense to use it on his own people to convince other arabs that the U.S. used anthrax on Iraqis since it is our stock. - RR

1:13 PM  
Anonymous de7thangel said...

Ray,

"...and that is most likely how Saddam obtained aimes anthrax (if he had it). And if he had aimes anthrax, it would make perfect sense to use it on his own people to convince other arabs that the U.S. used anthrax on Iraqis since it is our stock. - RR"

Are you suggestion that the British gave or sold Saddam the Ames strain of anthrax? If you have evidence please post a link, but otherwise I think this must be pure speculation on your part.

4:55 PM  

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